tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post689876792073515532..comments2024-03-19T11:37:07.200+00:00Comments on The GENES Blog: English and Welsh 1939 register now onlineChris Patonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05073425769475523109noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post-74976581053113469492015-11-06T17:30:16.338+00:002015-11-06T17:30:16.338+00:00I've had the same experience -- provided them ...I've had the same experience -- provided them with a death certificate and a copy of the information that was released to me in 2011. I've now re-sent them the same documents, plus a marriage and birth certificate. We shall see...ColeValleyGirlhttp://www.colevalleygirl.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post-31368392030441769672015-11-06T16:12:16.134+00:002015-11-06T16:12:16.134+00:00I sent off 2 copies of death certificates and fill...I sent off 2 copies of death certificates and filled in all the information just as they asked for. Today I have an email for both people saying they need more information, though they don't say what! I have emailed them asking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post-38762862845220777712015-11-02T21:23:24.982+00:002015-11-02T21:23:24.982+00:00My father died 1978 and he's locked. My fathe...My father died 1978 and he's locked. My father-in-law 1972, he's locked. My uncle 1964, he's locked. Ridiculous that WE have to provide death certificates for individuals to unlock records. How can we identify who's who on individual households with no idea of who was where and when. The very least they could have provided are their names. How to we find people who are not at home that night without a way of identifying them, warkslasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14624918002092181400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post-76172248245005865742015-11-02T19:06:08.594+00:002015-11-02T19:06:08.594+00:00Peter - my current understanding is that there is ...Peter - my current understanding is that there is a closure period for births under a hundred years ago for automatic access, but also those not deceased before 1991, as FMP can't verify post 1991 deaths automatically. See my follow up post at http://britishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/review-of-1939-english-and-welsh.html for more on how to get FMP to try to unlock those records. Chris Patonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05073425769475523109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post-29920278738468310252015-11-02T18:48:12.357+00:002015-11-02T18:48:12.357+00:00Are people whose records are closed, not shown in ...Are people whose records are closed, not shown in the index ?<br /><br />I can't find my mum (born 1919) in search results and she was in England and not in military service. If people whose records are closed are not shown in the index, how on earth can you definitively find them so that you can inform National Archives that they are dead so that the record can be opened ?Peter Munrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17383013215854300272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post-72285691313730823462015-11-02T18:43:49.069+00:002015-11-02T18:43:49.069+00:00I haven't been able to find my granny definiti...I haven't been able to find my granny definitively. <br />The only 2 results shown are in Manchester and I thought she lived in Middlesbrough. Of course, she could have been visiting as her husband's parents lived in Manchester. <br /><br />However, the abbreviated locked results don't show the address just 'Manchester C.B' and I'm reluctant to pay £14 just on the off-chance that one of the households includes her. <br /><br />If either the address was shown or the identities of the other 'unclosed' people on the record were shown (or preferably both), I would be able to have more confidence that a household was one that I wanted to see.<br /><br />I feel that the implementation by Find My Past is not as sensible as it should have been.Peter Munrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17383013215854300272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post-25711675707934271132015-11-02T14:53:18.149+00:002015-11-02T14:53:18.149+00:00As you say, DEPB 154/3 was redacted from the manua...As you say, DEPB 154/3 was redacted from the manual request, but so also was /5 - and maybe there was a /8 as well???? That would make a total of 8 = 1 + 2 + 5 as per the system. What appears on the enumerator's handwritten schedule? Is there a blocked out line for /8? (Is that how redaction works on FMP?)<br /><br />As for the fact that FMP redacts more than the manual request - I'm sure when you're awake properly (though I admire your dedication!) - you'll consider that the manual FoI request need not have been correct. There is a Liesel Rosenwald on Ancestry's England & Wales death index, born 9 October 1926 (so sounds like your boarder) who died in 2000. Now that's after the NHS is supposed to have stopped maintaining the 1939 Register in 1991, so she has been correctly redacted by FMP as they will have (according to what we are told) no evidence of her death. Quite why the manual process gave her details I've no idea - either they blundered, the rules changed or the NHS had stuff that they have not passed to FMP about post-1991 deaths.<br /><br />(Yes, Liesel was easier to track than the others!)Adrian Brucenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-434701420960162731.post-88829053201348144622015-11-02T09:02:28.025+00:002015-11-02T09:02:28.025+00:00I have a similar issue -- I already have the recor...I have a similar issue -- I already have the record for the address where my mother was resident -- 5 identifiable people (including my mother) in 2 separate households at the same address, plus an indication that there were other individuals who could not be identified as they weren't known to be deceased. Findmypast offers 2 households, each of which has 2 identifiable individuals (presumably because they were born before 1915). My mother's household has 2 'closed' individuals -- one of whom will be her, and one of whom I have no idea about... And I can't be absolutely certain I have the right household because an address search on the street involved only shows 6 houses instead of 9! Goodness knows what the others are indexed under. Not impressed so far...ColeValleyGirlhttp://www.colevalleygirl.co.uknoreply@blogger.com