Showing posts with label Irish Genealogy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Irish Genealogy. Show all posts

Wednesday, 15 November 2017

Further update from Irish Genealogy

I've had a brief response from Irish Genealogy (www.irishgenealogy.ie) about the problems concerning the indexes to marriage and death records, and the loss of registration district information (see http://britishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/further-free-records-added-to-irish.html) - here goes:

Many thanks for your query

Just a few teething problems in the overlap of the updated data and the older information. Hopefully all will be sorted in the next 24 hours. Meanwhile a press release re: additional records will issue soon.


Hopefully sorted soon!

(Thanks to Irish Genealogy's feedback team)

UPDATE: Claire Santry has a further update on the situation at http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2017/11/irish-civil-bmd-records-latest-on.html

Chris

My next 5 week long Scotland 1750-1850: Beyond the OPRs course commences Nov 6th 2017 - details at https://www.pharostutors.com/details.php?coursenumber=302. For my genealogy guide books, visit http://britishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/p/my-books.html, whilst details of my research service are at www.ScotlandsGreatestStory.co.uk. Further content is also published daily on The GENES Blog Facebook page at www.facebook.com/BritishGENES.

Wednesday, 14 September 2016

PRONI search room offers access to GRONI records

From the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (www.nidirect.gov.uk/proni), major news about an enhancement that will further enhance the centre as Ireland's premier research resource:

Births/Deaths and Marriage Search service @ PRONI

PRONI has partnered with the General Register Office of Northern Ireland (GRONI) to bring a birth/death and marriage certificate search service to PRONI’s Public Search Room. It is now possible to search GRONI’s full database from 1845 right up to present day and should prove a valuable resource for those researching their family history.

*Please note that this is a payable search service in which customers will be required to register with GRONI. In addition PRONI only offers a search service of the database. Copies of Birth/Death and Marriage Certificates must be requested direct from GRONI.

For further information on Births, Deaths and Marriages Certificates, visit the GRONI website.

COMMENT: This announcement effectively does two things - it allows for a more centralised GRONI access point in Belfast, considering that the main facility is due to move out of the town centre shortly - and it effectively consolidates PRONI's search room into a full family history hub, much in the way the ScotlandsPeople Centre in Edinburgh acts.

PRONI now offers access to parish material, civil BMD records and archive material for Northern Ireland, all on one floor in the same building. Note that whilst some of the historic civil records can be accessed via the GENI site at https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/ and the new online offering from the southern government at www.irishgenealogy.ie, the access offered by GRONI itself in Belfast does not follow the same online closure periods of births over 100 years old, marriages over 75 years old, and deaths over 50 - which means that records (almost) up to the present day can be consulted. And that is important in particular from 1922 onwards, where GRONI is the sole national body holding such records for the north.

Another major development in Belfast!

Chris

For details on my genealogy guide books, including A Beginner's Guide to British and Irish Genealogy, A Decade of Irish Centenaries: Researching Ireland 1912-1923, Discover Scottish Church Records (2nd edition), Discover Irish Land Records and Down and Out in Scotland: Researching Ancestral Crisis, please visit http://britishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/p/my-books.html.

Wednesday, 30 September 2015

Irish Genealogy improves civil marriage search facility

The Irish Genealogy website at www.irishgenealogy.ie has updated its civil registration indexes to improve its marriage records search facility (subject to a 75 year closure period), as well as to update by a year the indexes available for births and deaths (subject to closure periods of 100 and 50 years respectively). The following is the news announcement (www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news):

The Indexes to Birth Records over 100 years, the Indexes to Marriage Records over 75 years and the Indexes to Death Records over 50 years are available to search on www.irishgenealogy.ie. The Birth Records Indexes date from 1864 to 1914, the Marriage Records Indexes date from 1845 (1864 for Roman Catholic Marriages) to 1939, and the Death Records Indexes date from 1864 to 1964. Regular users of the site will also notice the enhancement of the Marriage Indexes, with both parties to the Marriage now being shown from 1882 onwards.

Essentially it is now possible to do a marriage search from 1882-1939 using one party's name, such as Patrick Burns, and to know that you have found the right entry for the candidate of interest, with the other party's name of interest also returned in the search result - e.g.


A useful addition, but one that would be even further enhanced when the entries from 1845-1881 are also added in!

Chris

For details on my genealogy guide books, including my recently released Discover Irish Land Records and Down and Out in Scotland: Researching Ancestral Crisis, please visit http://britishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/p/my-books.html. My Pinterest account is at https://www.pinterest.com/chrismpaton/.

Tuesday, 4 November 2014

Irish Genealogy - parish coverage guides

I've been trying to find the parish by parish coverage for each record type on the Irish Genealogy website at www.irishgenealogy.ie, but haven't been getting far.

If you're having the same issue, the PDF documents previously available there have been cached by the Internet Archive, and can be found at https://web.archive.org/web/20130206052638/http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/record_list.html

Chris

My next Scotland 1750-1850: Beyond the Old Parish Records online course starts on November 5th, and runs for 5 weeks, priced at £45.99. Spaces are still available - see http://pharostutors.com/coursedescriptions.php#302

Monday, 21 July 2014

RIP: GRO Ireland's credibility (2014-2014)

There's a great phrase often used in life, when a spectacular failure that could be entirely foreseen just wasn't, and all credit is subsequently given for the failure to the organiser.

"He couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery."

To clarify... this is a great piss up, the example being the night before my brother's wedding in Portsmouth last year:



With enough beer, participants, and permission to be allowed in the said brewery, it would indeed be entirely possible to organise such an event very easily. You just have to ask the right questions, find some thirsty folk, and then let rip until daybreak... anyone could do it!

Unless you happen to be the General Register Office of Ireland.

For almost a year the GRO from the Republic of Ireland has been promising enhanced indexes online for state issued certificates for births, marriages and deaths from 1845 to the present day, all with added and enhanced information, designed to bring Irish genealogy resources well and truly into the 21st century. Surely not, many cried, such an act would be like finding and then hiring Moses to part the Red Sea again - a tad tricky? And yet, a couple of weeks back, they delivered, and on Irish Genealogy (www.irishgenealogy.ie) the indexes arrived. A grateful nation wept tears of joy.

Except... the GRO forgot to ask if it was OK to put the information online.

The Irish Genealogy site put a note up a few days ago to say that the database was currently unavailable. The Information Commissioner in Ireland, Billy Hawkes, has since been quoted in today's Irish Times as saying that “it will stay down until we sort out what exactly has gone wrong", for although "a lot of the stuff on the site is harmless – it’s about dead people", it's quite a different issue when putting info online about those still alive. His judgement is apparently that someone has “missed the plot” in doing so. The article is at http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/personal-details-removed-from-site-over-identity-theft-concerns-1.1872741, with a follow up at http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/genealogy-site-left-personal-data-open-to-identity-thieves-says-commissioner-1.1872664 discussing the fears of identity theft that the database would apparently be open to abuse for.

Such fears have prevented the ScotlandsPeople site (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) from issuing detailed indexes for recent records that do not fall within certain closure periods (100 years for births, 75 for marriages, 50 for deaths) - it only provides basic indexes that have enough information to order the relevant certificate for those already in the know. The Northern Irish GENI site (https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk), launched recently, just does not provide any recent indexes at all, only records older than the same employed closure periods. The English and Welsh GRO however, does provide indexes up to 2005 online (via various third parties), but provides no further indexes online beyond that date for privacy reasons. All these bodies have at least considered what is acceptable online. Not GRO Ireland it seems...


In summary, the GRO in Ireland, and its government partners at Irish Genealogy, have screwed up in unbelievable proportions. As such, they should probably not be contacted to organise parties in establishments that produce booze - just in case you were thinking of asking them to do so.

(With thanks to Nicola Elsom and Colin Gronow via comments on my last story on this a few days back, but in particular to Claire Santry's Irish Genealogy News blog - see Claire's take on the situation at http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2014/07/privacy-issues-close-civil-registration.html)

Chris

Now available for UK research is the new second edition of the best selling Tracing Your Family History on the Internet: A Guide for Family Historians, whilst my new book British and Irish Newspapers is also now out. And FindmyPast - please reinstate the original Scottish census citations on your new site.

Saturday, 19 July 2014

Irish BMD indexes database currently unavailable

The recently launched civil births, marriages and deaths indexes database for the Republic of Ireland on Irish Genealogy (www.irishgenealogy.ie) have suddenly disappeared, with a message since 13.05 yesterday (Friday) now stating "Civil Records Search temporarily unavailable: Further update will be provided."

Rather oddly the category heading itself has disappeared from the menu at the top of the home page, but all other record sets remain accessible at present. Hopefully this is just some sort of blip that will be sorted imminently...

For Northern Irish research, remember that BMD records can be sourced from the new pay per view source from the GRO in Belfast at https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk, whilst for the Republic, BMD indexes from 1845-1958 are freely accessible on FamilySearch at https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347.

Chris

Now available for UK research is the new second edition of the best selling Tracing Your Family History on the Internet: A Guide for Family Historians, whilst my new book British and Irish Newspapers is also now out. And FindmyPast - please reinstate the original Scottish census citations on your new site.

Monday, 23 June 2014

Enhanced Irish GRO BMD indexes launch July 3rd

Claire Santry is reporting on her Irish Genealogy News blog that the enhanced GRO indexes from the Republic of Ireland, used to order births, marriages and deaths, will be going online from July 3rd at www.irishgenealogy.ie. These will be a considerable improvement on those available just now on Ancestry, FindmyPast and FamilySearch.

The full story is at http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/major-news-enhanced-gro-indexes-launch.html.

(With thanks to Claire)

Chris

Now available for UK research is the new second edition of the best selling Tracing Your Family History on the Internet: A Guide for Family Historians, whilst my new book British and Irish Newspapers is also now out. And FindmyPast - please reinstate the original Scottish census citations on your new site.

Sunday, 11 May 2014

Parish records added to IrishGenealogy.ie

Irish Genealogy (www.irishgenealogy.ie) has added the following records to its parish records collections:

  • Bandon: 17,667 RC baptisms and marriages
  • Iveleary: 11,411 RC baptisms and marriages
  • St Michaels, Dublin: 660 Church of Ireland records


Claire Santry has the full story at http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/irishgenealogyie-adds-cork-dublin.html

Chris

Now available for UK research is the new second edition of the best selling Tracing Your Family History on the Internet: A Guide for Family Historians. And for those wishing to take Scottish ancestral research a bit further, my next Pharos course, Scotland 1750-1850: Beyond the Old Parish Records, commences May 14th 2014.

Friday, 20 December 2013

Irish BMD register indexes delay

Claire Santry is reporting on her blog that the promised release of BMD indexes for Irish civil registration records on Irish Genealogy (www.irishgenealogy.ie) has been pushed back until after Christmas. The indexes will be more complete than those offered already online, with other additions such as mother's maiden names from 1903 to 1927 on birth records, and a complete run of indexes to the present day for the Republic for births, marriages and deaths (and up to 1921 for Northern Ireland). No new deadline has been given, but Claire is stating her belief that "the delay is likely to be a matter of weeks rather than months".

For the full story visit http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/christmas-is-delayed.html.

Chris

My latest book, Discover Scottish Civil Registration Records, is now available from http://www.gould.com.au (print) and http://www.gen-ebooks.com/unlock-the-past.html (ebook), whilst Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet is available at http://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Tracing-Your-Irish-History-on-the-Internet/p/3889/.

Monday, 9 September 2013

IrishGenealogy.ie site currently down

Claire Santry is reporting on her Irish Genealogy News blog that Irish Genealogy (www.irishgenealogy.ie) is currently down - see http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/irishgenealogyie-and-linked-sites-are.html. The site is one of the most important and useful online for offering many free records for Irish family history research, so fingers crossed it gets sorted PDQ!

(With thanks to Claire Santry)

UPDATE: Back up again!

Chris

My wife Claire is planning to swim from the Scottish island of Cumbrae to the town of Largs on September 14th to raise money for local charity Gillian's Saltire Appeal, providing respite for families affected by cancer (Claire's mum and sister in Ireland have previously come through cancer, whilst my mum, based in England, currently has bladder cancer). Her Just Giving sponsorship page, with further details, is at http://www.justgiving.com/Claire-Paton1. If you can help to sponsor her, even by a wee amount, we'd be very grateful - many thanks!

Thursday, 3 January 2013

RCBL places more indexed Anglican records online

The Representative Church Body Library in Dublin has just placed online further parish registers indexes, this time for Newtownbarry (Bunclody) Union, which includes records for the following parish churches:

Newtownbarry – St Mary’s Church
Baptisms 1799-1903
Marriages 1799-1903
Burials 1799-1903

Barragh – St Paul’s Church
Baptisms 1799-1805 And 1831-1879
Marriages 1799-1805 And 1830-1903
Burials 1799-1805 And 1838-1878

Clonegal – St Fiaac’s Church
Baptisms 1792-1903
Marriages 1792-1906
Burials 1792-1903

Kilrush – St Brigid’s Church
Baptisms 1878-1903
Marriages 1845-1903
Burials 1878-1903

The link for the document is http://ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/AngRecord/bunclodyunionindex.pdf - the index is a composite of entries in alphabetical order for the four parishes, but each entry's source is clearly identified.

The main RCBL page carrying the indexes, created in response to the stalling of the Irish Genealogy web project (www.irishgenealogy.ie), is at http://ireland.anglican.org/about/151.

(With thanks to the Genealogical Society of Ireland via Twitter at @GenSocIreland)

Chris

Pre-order my new book, Tracing Your Irish Family History on the Internet, through Pen and Sword (30 April 2013), or purchase early at Who Do You Think You Are Live 2013 in London. For my other genealogy books, please visit http://britishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/p/my-books.html; whilst for online Scottish based genealogy courses please visit the Pharos Teaching and Tutoring Ltd site.

Thursday, 26 July 2012

Irish Genealogy sources update

This is a slightly belated announcement, but I have just noticed that the source listings page for the Irish Genealogy website (www.irishgenealogy.ie) was updated last month on June 8th. This is the fabulously brilliant website from the Irish Government's Department of Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht which offers completely free to access digitised images and indexes for church records from Dublin City, Carlow, Cork and Ross, and Kerry (with some Monaghan records to come in due course).

I am not sure what the update included, but if you have checked the site's source listings before and did not find what you were looking for, it may be worth another quick look! The source page is available at http://irishgenealogy.ie/record_list.html.

Chris

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